@valentin_petzel then please think again.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission Can you perhaps also prove such conjectures? Or are you conspiracy theorists? Great reset people?

@valentin_petzel

Nah, honestly I'll pass. If you're seriously questioning her involvement in enabling the numerous human rights abuses and indiscriminate murder of thousands of people, I don't think I'll be able to change your mind anyway.

I've got places to be.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission Typical far right behaviour ... Simply claim things until people do not care anymore about whether they are true. You even admit to being unwilling to even try to justify these claims.

@valentin_petzel

That's funny. You're funny. I'm sorry, but I don't owe you the explanation of something you probably read in media over the last 8 months and outright refused it.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission I'm quite sure I've read nothing in the media claiming that von der Leyen was committing genocide someplace (here we only get claims about "warmongering" from the far right). In my opinion a statement accusing von der Leyen of genocide and the refusing to give any legitimization is just slander. It is a typical right wing behavior. EU helping Ukraine to defend itself is certainly not genocide. Maybe I am funny to you. I do not find Nazis like you funny.

@valentin_petzel

I'm not saying she commits genocide. I'm saying she enables it by her political actions. You're missing the point completely. And that also I find funny.

Calling me a Nazi is really something. Wow.

I just want the EU and Von Der Leyen to take some action against the blatant injustice happening to Palestinians as we speak. But that won't happen.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission Yes, you might just be a regular far right fascist. But then, Nazi is such a good collective term. The initial post clearly described von der Leyen as "genocidal". In what sense is this not accusing her of committing genocide? If you are talking about involvement with African civil wars and stuff, that is a general thing about global economy and less the specific fault of von der Leyen.

@valentin_petzel

Well. Okay. It's not a reach to consider someone enabling a genocide to also be genocidal and I hope you do realise that at some point.

She wields power to at least attempt to stop it, just like politicians in my country and people like Biden alike. And they just won't. That makes them complicit by inaction.

Get lost, I'm done with you calling me a far right enthusiast.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission You know what's funny? I just realized you are a totally different guy than the one I replied to. So you butt into the conversation, make substantial accusations without giving any proof, and then tell ME to get lost? You are either a brainless Nazi or a troll.

@valentin_petzel

I'm sorry, but is this your private conversation with someone? It's public, of course I'll jump in if I agree with the point they made.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission Yes, but it is a bit dishonest to jump on a public conversation, and then tell people to get lost once you are unable to prove your claims.

@valentin_petzel

It's not that I'm unable to prove my claims, I just don't want to for my own reasons. I told you to get lost because you repeatedly called me a Nazi and a far right sympathiser. I'm neither of those and felt insulted.

Wouldn't you?

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission Well, clearly you are. You appear to claim that EU and USA starting to allow Ukraine use of delivered Weapons against military targets on russion territory as "genocidal", which is something even more ridiculous than anything before, and generally comes from the Putin friendly far right corner. Maybe you are Wagenknecht-style left wing. Probably not less riduculous.

@valentin_petzel

I have never seen someone so painfully unaware of the context of the discussion they partake in before.

Good job.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission Great strategy. Once you cannot prove your point you just claim the other person is not informed enough. Look, if you do not want to be identified as a right wing supporter, maybe don't act like one?

@valentin_petzel

I mean, it's not really my fault you make such assumptions about me (calling me a Nazi?) without even taking a moment trying to understand we're not talking about EU's actions towards Ukraine.

@francis @EUCommission

@rad @francis @EUCommission So you are talking about covid vaccines? Or what?

@rad @francis @EUCommission And yes, EU has trade relations to problematic countries like up to some point russia, China, Turkey, ... But these are the countries that partner with and fund all your beloved right wing parties. So clearly the pot calling the kettle black.

@valentin_petzel

My beloved far right parties such as?

@francis @EUCommission

@valentin_petzel @rad @EUCommission I’m talking about the unquestioning support for what Israel is doing. Along with simpering at protesters, which made me shudder.

@francis

Precisely that.

@valentin_petzel @EUCommission